Why should we try to start a new color to a breed we ALREADY have, and make the white dobies we have now suffer with genetic/health problems so that MAYBE one day the white dobie gene pool will be dilluted enough so that they only have the same health problems as the other colored dobermans? Hello. A newborn bird may give the impression that it is a quiet bird at the onset. He is a wonderful family dog.. His only health issue is that hes had runny eyes (nothing major) since he was a pup. These are truly beautiful dogs.. Educate yourself, you freaking twelve-year-olds. Also, consumers and dog lovers need to be educated about the health concerns of these dogs. Maybe next might be another color like a Blue. Lay blame where blame belongs, the people who dont spay, neglect, and/or abuse animals. He adores people and does amazing with other cats and dogs He is fully litter trained and eats his hard premium food but loves a snack of 2 wool horse blankets size 78 each Very good condition $50 each. Budgies for sale from babies to breeding adults. Aruensis Eclectus My friend said she expected to see her carrying him down the hall to me to take care of what ever he might need at the time. As long as you do,thats all that matters. It is difficult to analyse why the Caucasian colour originated in humans presumably because melanistic colouration was not particularly needed in the Northern Hemisphere of our planet. Doberman is a brilliant dog with any color and ears and if you want to have companion for you and guard for your children take doberman. I have two Dobermans both female a red/rust and white/cream. All classifieds - Veux-Veux-Pas, free classified ads Website. These dogs were never tracked nor were their litters. She lay in the floor next to him and I would catch her cleaning his face. And the coats and health on all my Cream/white Dobermans have been excellent. Until scientific research is done to prove they are albinoid, you all have no right to bicker like children about a dog. Being out on the street to cause a problem or die a painful death. Cleo.guarded the children from day one and would stop my wife from crossing any road diagonally it was 90 degrees or Cleo would lean on the pram or pushchair so my wife had to follow Cleos wishes! I recommend both of them and if your are close to either I can give you a contact person. To be a partial albino, the horse needs two copies of the partial albino gene. I do Not think it would be right to breed with the specific intentions of producing a litter of beautiful White or Cream color Dober-Babies. Now some breeders have been trying to fix the problem by crossing the white with fawn to keep the light color but extend the gen pool, this is helping the problem a lot. An animal can have albino skin & hair, but still have normal eye color; this is called partial albinism. The two girls together are amazing. Ready for there new homes mid January. Lovebirds Their was life again in our house instead of tears and grieving. Many years ago I fell in love with the Doberman breed. We got him about 2 and he died at 13 quite suddenly actually, We took him to the vet as he was growling at my mother which he never had done before. He is very gentle and comfortable around people. Which means they are not within the AKC breed standard. I am a veterinary nurse and kennel club registered Doberman breeder in the UK. , I have grown to love the Dobmerman due to their intelligence, loyalty and gorgeous looks. All of our Dobes have been raised and exposed to children (many small children as part of their socialization) and have done great. Heartbroken, and beginning the search for another. His temperament is exceptional. SunBurst HD High Yellow Macaw, the newest F-2 Hybrid in the Macaw World and only produced by Parrot Daddy. Dobermans have a specific temperament that was bred to protect their owners they are also very well tempered around children and people. Young Budgies (most colours) Hello Sharon, we finally had our appointment with a cardiac veterinarian. Further info: Stewart, Our of 5 babies we have 2 left. Ya white blue and fawn should never be purposly bred Every since american breeders got there hands on a dobermann they have ruined the breed.. Now we have dilluted colors, whites, everyone of these types are prine to skin issues at the very least. You clearly mistook the information in the article that they are sick animals and shouldnt be bred. ahh, its funny to see all the hatred for the white dobbies. $3,800 - price negotiable as I am looking for the best family for my bird & not the best price to sell at. Actually, any real research will show that white Dobermans are not albino. Thank you., Its been a pleasure dealing with Krosstech., We are really happy with the product. Spaying/neuterining is the equivalent of cutting out a womans ovaries or a mans testicles without their permission.would you like for your doctor to do this to you simply because he didnt think you should have children? Give your head a shake. These Dobermans actually do have health probs there white coat shouldnt be exposed to sun I had a white dobee before. And humans are an inbred species wether or not you believe the principalities of Christianity. I NO LONGER HAVE A WHITS DOBIE LIVING BUT WILL HAVE TO SAY THEY WERE SO MUCH BETTER WITH THE COATS THAN MOST DILUTE COLORS I HAVE EVER OWNED. New Life kennels in Idaho has the best Dobies youll ever find! Vanill gave birth to 5 kittens on October 13 2022. i think that we should do what is best for the breed . He is sweet, loving, active and playful. Her daughter has taken over the kennel and is just as driven to support the White Dobermans and the Doberman Pinscher, as a breed, in whole. The MESOSILVER brand is the only one I can recommend because it is the only one Ive ever used. Theyre the ones who cause animals to suffer and waste billions of dollars in resources that could be used elsewhere. But i would not recommand to buy a white. Will make great breeding couple when female is of age. Budgies ( all colours) Check out Beautiful Birds Galore on Facebook for many happy customer reviews, I am a bird breeder and have the following birds available Male princess parrot Brenda. And we have owned the famed Australian Cattle Cog whose intelligence is legendary. Young king quail I also have a large range of nest boxes and as new bird cages Bottom lineits irresponsible to propagate unhealthy breeding. Ring necks I'm finding it hard to look after. albino from parents with no albinistic mutations), but they are very, VERY rare. Hes also had various moles all over his back/body that my vet and I monitor for skin cancer. I couldnt have asked for a better dog. This statement is not intended to make you mad. We post dogs in the usa and canada. Should be good future breeders. Neutered and spayed dogs had 4.3 times higher incidence of lymphoma (lymphosarcoma), regardless of age at time of neutering. My second oldest Cream/white is going on 11. If you have many products or ads, Her first visit to the vet we were told she has allergies, she had a double ear infection and two types of worms. The only reason you didnt see them until recently was because breeders culled them drowned them or broke their necks as soon as they were born. My white may squint in the sun but so do I! But I will say that i have never spent so much money on vet bills on any dog Ive ever owned in my life. Howdy. Again you may get lucky and have no issues with your dob now but the percent is huge on these to have extreme health issues. The PROPER term is black and RUST and it is sad to see you propagating such MISINFORMATION about the breed!!! My white Doberman is both death and blind but very sweet. I have the following birds for sale , Great looking dog, although someone did a hack job on his ears. Her Mom was white and dad was black/tan. She sees the vet for her yearly stuff. White skin cant go into the sun and therefore cant create vitamin D which leaves their bodies to pull it from their bones making them weak and open to osteoporosis and every other diseases and sickness some which albino dogs have in common. Black and rust . So get that idea out your head and just research the dog you get before you get it or ask ur local vet. Just adopted a red/Rust 20 month old male and would like another Dobbie. It is refreshing to receive such great customer service and this is the 1st time we have dealt with you and Krosstech. with that. It is ideal for use in sterile storerooms, medical storerooms, dry stores, wet stores, commercial kitchens and warehouses, and is constructed to prevent the build-up of dust and enable light and air ventilation. Playful. Happy to freight at purchasers expense. by the way you will have some health issues with all animals they are a living thing that takes just as much care as most children, I have a albino he is the best dog that i ever had . Our girl Porsche is a love bug. Because it is a Recessive gene, white would be bred to white to decrease the chances of the Dominant gene from producing. I had a white male dobermen pinscher. Theres also no such thing as partially albino. This is our background. We have no issues with UTIs, no ear infections, no worms nothing! do i believe a doberman with an expected life span of 10 years that is prone to hypothyroidism, heart murmur, bloat and god knows what else and that has had ears and tail-chopped off is better up than a white doberman? Very good condition horse blanket 78 Padded, Everything in picture is included Tank, light, filter, heater. I have a baby macaw hatched on the 10 July this little love has been handraised for ten days old, A lot of time and effort has gone into raising this little darling. Dr. S. At the University of Saskatchewan says that color has no bearing on the health and temperament of a dog. Sickly dogs produce sickly pups, I wonder why its supposed to be ok to breed a unhealthy black and tan doberman but not a healthy white one? We also had a Doberman named Cleo who was hands down the most amazing dog. I have a white girl almost 1 year old absolutely perfect health no issues whatsoever, Im looking into getting a white or a Red. Though I imagine Albino and partial albino dobermans popped up all throughout its history. i did some research and the original dam did have a white and the male pup (yes male) was breed with sis litter mates to keep getting the white color. Pbfd When you buy through links on the site, we may earn an affiliate commission. there is nothing wrong with white dobermans. Pickup Only & No Holds Also, a neighbor had a visitor with a beautiful blue dobie girl. I am not sure about anyone else. As with any Nordic human being, we know that the less color pigment in our skin, the more susceptible we are to the harmful ultra-violet sun rays. The white Doberman is not an inbred retard but a beautiful color variation of the Doberman breed. Sale includes bird, XL cage, T-stand perch, airline approved carrier, car perch, harness & staple foods (pelletes) Use it or loose it. Btw the title says The 5 Doberman Colors And The One To Avoid but the arcticle says that there is TWO we should avoid. Also they are not albino they are like any other color variation. Adding to the confusion, the color names also vary around the world, some Europeans call red Dobermans, brown. Most people know the Doberman as a black dog with brown markings. The blurred vision they experience along with skin irritations from exposure can lead to itchy nerves (or more simplified nervousness), especially after long exposures to direct sunlight and heat or extreme cold. If there are genetic problems in a particular line say, deafness or blindness then that could easily be mitigated by careful selective breeding. I have never been owned by a White, but Ive been blessed to know several, very, very well. The gray color may have a charcoal gray, silver, or purple tone. Cockatiels He was badly abused so we know its going to be a long road. She has several very healthy cream ones and after having one lab-tested the results came back with no classification of albino whatsoever. It doesnt get much better than that!!! Ive owned nothing but dobermans for 30 years and I have owned and rescused every color, including the z factor whites. Sarah: I have to agree, albinos have red eyes not blueso that kind of confuses me (Only on this subject because I wanted a little bit of advise before getting a white Doberman. As far as the akc lots of dogs that ar registered with them now did not start out with them they accept new breeds all the time. I have previously had 4dobies and one of them was born deformed. At the time of her registration it was found that there was in fact 7 other AKC registered white dobes. Study up, then post a more informative comment. Had the test shown anything suspicious, the next step would have been a holtor test. I am looking at an Isabella (Fawn). So, yes, hes required a bunch of extra care. Tennessee has a doberman rescue group. Weaned ready to go Dogs should look something like a wolf, a dingo, or a fox if they had not been reconfigured by humans. YOU ARE RIGHT, PEOPLE GET BUTT HURT OVER FACTS WHEN IF THEY DID THE RESEARCH THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO SEE FACT FRON FICTION. I am concerned that our rather flawed, poorly evidence-based opinions may rob us of the pleasure of some lovely animals. This is Ollie. He would turn himself inside out for one of Grandmas oatmeal cookies. Love your dog no matter what his/ her color is. She is smart and is trained well with a good disposition. And ever since Ive been sharing what Ive learned with other Dobie fans. Hope everythings going well now. He has a very sweet and loving personality, he is very active, playful and naughty. Its just a thing we do to protect our four-legged family members. The environment is everything. By its first year the poor girl was blind, covered in sores from being in the sun without sunscreen and the animal got cancer in its liver and died before it was 4 years old. I am now 16) I can say that for some people, purebred dogs are better. Follow up will be in 2020, but until then no meds nor restrictions are prescribed. A second question- I am single with no kids, if I get married and have kids, how is the Dobermans temperment with learning to live with more people after probably a few years with just me? I have raised Black and Tan, Red and Tan, Blue and Cream and Tan. Exercise responsibility instead. Hes my 90lb lap dog. When Becky started to talk her first word was Clee her word for Cleo as Becky got to four years old we gave in and let her hold Cleos lead as she had been asking from about two years of age ? Little did I know at the time the classification of WZ would come to haunt my wallet and health of our new pup. or a sheppherd dog or a wiener? She has never had an issue in health her whole life. 2023 bmw convertible for sale. In a survey on this website, we asked visitors which color was their favorite. I have a Blue doberman, white doberman and Black and Tan Doberman and I think the white and blue are better dogs then the black and tan. She had limitations, but always gave clear signals, what she was comfortable with. Well I am the Proud owner and friend of one black and rust, one blue and rust, one red and rust, and two isabella (fawn) and rust Dobermans. We already have hundreds of homeless dogs we do not need more so I feel to not spay/neuter them that would be harming them more than helping them. As a small comment, white is beautiful, in addition to being a soul and as we want them, they accept us as we are. These puppies will grow between 9-14 lbs full grown. However, she is overly friendly with EVERYONE and very healthy. He loves the nieghborhood kids and all of the visitors that come into the house but he is always on guard when strangers come around. Third problem: our moZart sufferes from lick granuloma issues and benign lipoma tumors (6) in total! wowi totally agree with flower. Lol Some people are better at this than others and some dogs (regardless of breed) are easier to train than others. But, when it does happen.when a bitch produces 7 healthy, beautiful babies, of which one just happens to be White, that pup should not be killed. From one week out of the nest. Borna virus I bet half of you owners with healthy white Dobies havent seen been to a vet more than three times with that dog. I read your stories about your three Dobermans. Ive seen mine run circles around other breeds here like the Labs. I served in the military as an Aviation Search and Rescue Corpsman (and its an open wound, not a scar), offering my life along with people of all cultures and colors. White Dobermans today descend from Sheba, who was inbred to create white Dobermans. His left front leg had all the parts it was supposed to but in a mixed up order! I think it needs to be said that while whites are beautiful, intelligent, loving and just as wonderful as any other color of dobe, the akc doesnt accept them. You are right, you do have to be a bit careful with White Dobes getting too much sun. Exposure to children is essential to even an adult dog. But the allel can occur spontan and of course, your dogs can be offspring from this white line. there is no need to look into the genetics of the dog to prove the breeding is all wrong just looking at the dog should be proof enough. I am looking for a melanistic black dobe. She was our next to last Doberman and miss all of them so much. Thank you , so sad anyone would want to encourage breeding white Dobermans, knowing the health problems they will have to endure. the thing is..if u breed an isabella with a red rustmy red rusts mom is also an isabella a white dobe might come out.which happened to me..they r not even relatives!..my white dobbie now is 7 yrs old..hes got no defects at allhes got 2 balls,perfect eyesight..both eyes testedno hearing defect..very clean stomach,very nice coat..his coat is a lil rough..not the usual ones dat is very flat on d skin, i did a stress test for him and he passed.. my other dobes r mad with cats most dogs i guess hehe but my white dobbie is friendly even with my hamster..:D i also have a cat and he goes along good with hermy other dobbies dont, i seriously cannot consider him a fault..as he can do what my other dobes canHE IS BETTER actually..temperament wise..i can say my dobbie isnt as troubleome as my other normalcolored dobes..not agressive..its like i own a shihtzu hahaha..:D:D, Id never say to put down a doberman that is born with the defect of being white but this dog must be spayed or neutered as soon as possible and never bred. I met a lady who worked in their processing plant and she told me what I was curious about in terms of what is in the dog food. [email protected]. Thank you for your support I hope you can answer. they are all incredible dogs just be responsible. They will be fully weaned and easy to handle. soaking wetCraigslist, Sarasota, Puppies For Sale, Pitbulls, Cute Animals, Olds, Quick. With time, love and patience he will become the dog god intended him to be. Although she is such a beauty and she has no health problems I will not be breeding her. The only reason I am writing is because as I was reading through I found one message that said get rid of the whites no time for bad dogs writen by miller! Spell checked by my mutt and pure bred who ran it by the goldfish. Thanks, Ok this is crazy! I was very intrigued. I have been a little crazy since as he is like yours, just as friendly and loving as can be and a little velcro. In horses, theres something called partial albinism. Furthermore, whilst I dont as of yet own one I think I shall purchase one just to chagrin the louts that scream so loudly about topics such as this, illegal immigrants taking their jobs, and globak warming being an utter farce. Exotic Birds for sale. I think some people have developed an absurd bias. It has been what most often leads to fear biting which is not as prevalent in other colors. Educate yourself, you freaking twelve-year-olds. you are forgetting one thing Her skin got better. They always will! Your dobe at 140 lbs is either overweight or oversize. They are worth because of the love they give not because of how many contests they can win. I realy think breeding 2 whites is where the problem comes in. Do your research. The thing about our Dobbi is we made the cardinal mistake of letting him think he was human, which made him a handful. But it will be years down the road. Not the standard black and rust. Good morning. RE: SARAH- please you are uninformed. was a shock and has been a difficult loss. In reguards to health issues, all purebred dogs have more health issues than mixed breed dogs, generally each BREED has its own list of common health problems associated with THAT BREED. I am proud to say I own a white doberman male one of the best i have ever had as a companion I also have kids and he thinks he is one of them. Weve got nothing but good to say about him. His name was Logan. Check your local store availability. While they do typically have high intelligence, friendly disposition, and minimal health issues, the opposite is also fairly common. Double yellow Amazons You dont understand breeding. Maybe you shudnt even own a dog if you feel theyre , how do I put this, um.. stuoid. She has always lived inside out of the sun. Love this breed and thank you for loving it, too. We ate in Huntsville, AL. I would not amputate his leg. Youll see for yourself the conclusion and stance that the Doberman community has taken on this. my family and I are very invested in this puppy his name is Einstein and Id hate to back out on this because weve already grown quite attached to him. I have a 3wk old litter right now. My mother and father had one, then my stepmother and father had two of them, then my grandparents had two. Neutered and spayed dogs had five times higher incidence of other types of cancer, regardless of age of neutering. He has the sweetest temperament and is an old soul, he has beautiful blue eyes, loves other dogs, kids, cats and people in general. There is NO KNOWN HEALTH ISSUES WITH ALL BLACK DOBERMANS they are just rare. Its sad to watch her sometimes bumping into thing but I couldnt imagine leaving her in a shelter so I brought her home. I cannot believe what you just said, NO ONE should EVER breed.. hahahahahahaha.. oh yes and while we are on it , lets make our faithful dogs become extinct .. you foolish person yours has to be the most nonsensical comment I have ever read on a doggie site lolol tut tut tut. Seeing that only 6% of people voted for the fawn makes me sad. I also agree with not getting dogs from shelters, I want to know where my dogs have come from and that they have had my influence and training from a young age. Blue and Gold Macaws Before you judge white dobermans I would recommend talking to people that have them. The population of white tigers is also too small and probably somewhat inbred to realistically test this theory. The funny part comes in with all the responsible breeders implying that their dogs werent inbred 1000 times to get to the breed standard. my biggest fear is the dog getting and then him getting into mischef while im at work. Shut your mouth dumbass, if people wanna spend their hard earned money on something they want then let em.who the f**know are u to say anything. I remain devastated to this day. As I told them you do not want an American Doberman. Not only has he got sensitive skin, he has stomach problems as well. What I find truly aweful about this entire string of comments to dates back to July of 2008 is the fact that there is so much venom and passion about the z factor dobies but its all a senseless argument. His name was DINO. If white dobermans were not meant to exist God would not have produced them. hello I want buy the 5 Doberman with the 5 different color can you help me to buy this puppy from the best quality and best price can you offer me the best club or if you have this puppy sale to me please help me please sent a message to me via my email:[email protected]. Most of the year the environment is white white white LOL! Increase the search radius for more results. **CALL ONLY** MACAW / HAND-RAISED BLUE & GOLD MACAW with XL Cage & items included, HARLIQUIN MACAWS HAND RAISED YOUNG PET BIRDS, Save search and get notified when new items are posted, Commercial Sales, Leasing & Property Mgmt, Residential Leasing & Property Management. Dreadlock Styling Near Me. They have no body weight to bring down a fighting man, nor do they have the rihht tempermant and courage to do so . So beautifully rare. so its ok to cut boys peniss but dont touch dog ears? Its to sad. Females spayed at 12 months or younger, and both genders neutered or spayed at over 12 months had significantly increased odds of developing hemangiosarcoma, compared with intact dogs. Puppies are easy to find, but not so adult Dobermans. Spayed females had 6.5 times higher incidence of all cancers combined compared to intact females, and neutered males had 3.6 times higher incidence than intact males. The first documented albino Doberman, Sheba, was born on November 10, 1976. If you truly cared as much as you would like others to believe, you would take the time to understand instead of spouting off at the mouth when its painfully obvious you havent a clue what youre talking about. While were not actually a rescue we do have rescues in our group who post available dobies and we have people who post their dobies that need to be re homed. Hey Marga, we find ourselves in your shoes. Dont know how, but here I am. Ill never forget them. In truth, there are various factors involved that may have deemed one dog bad, while another dog even from the same litter, but who has never been subjected to the same issues. Responsible pet owners do what is best for loved pet. But to everyone that has question about wanting to buy one i just like to say the are special its like having a special child they cant see good in sun light late afternoon best for himand to those that say put them down do you put special children down! This gorgeous male baby is a mix of Scottish Long Hair and American Shorthair. Not looking for a show dog Looking for a companion. Theres a very sweet 2 y.o. A horse with partial albinism has a cream-coloured coat, white mane and tail and blue eyes. When the Sunburst was unveiled it rocked the. Variety of colours mainly blues $15 each. Only then will its fullest potential be discovered and documented. Regrettably selling as I no longer have the time to give them that they deserve. The temperament for these dogs are great. Thanks! I love my dobes the way they are I stick to breed standard, so as not to change the breed, and possibly further the health problems so many have. Call to discuss further. To say all albinos today come from her blood line is false. Female around 65-70 lbs. HOWEVER I have also read a vast number of reports from people who claim to have skin, eye, stomach, and bone issues with their whites. THE WHITES NEVER HAD ANY ISSUES WITH BAD SKIN OR EYESIGHT OR HEARING! That goes for anything. Found a rescue in Enterprise, Alabama that we are currently in touch with. My red Dober-boy, Steele, gets a sunburn on and just above his nostrils the fist day outside in the Spring. Not every one can own a Doberman , as we know dogs run in packs and there is always a leader of the pack , so you have to be the leader of your pack. We have had various dobies since 1991. Killing white pups at birth doesnt remove the z factor from the line, which is clearly evident. a colored or non colored dogs are only going to be as well behaved as the owners. I would also like to add that the leading mfr of dog food is and has been a problem for us, having lost several dogs to cancer. For those who say albinos have red eyes, are very misinformed. Choose what works for YOU. Also if you purchase an albino doberman you are getting ripped off. A lot of people dont realize, a certain amount of in-breeding is done all the time, with every breed of dog (or cat, horse, cow, etc) when producing and bettering a specified BREED. I need help my family and I just purchased a black and rust Doberman from pure breeders.com (I know everyone will have their opinions on the site) and it was just brought to my attention through my asking that the Doberman we are getting z factored. Hope you will sell me your dog. Its obviously you dont know a damn thing about the breed do your research get a DNA test stop believing all the crap you see on the internet about white Dobermans none of it is true. This is so good to hear. The first recorded albino female, Shebah is not the only white doberman of record. People that breed white dobermans are disgusting & the people who are buying them are too! Take it from someone who found out the hard way. (Think back on your Punit Square from Biology class) Are you still looking for a rescue? One of my customers told me about a documentary on Netflix called Petfooled. Sort Dogs by: Ads 1 - 8 of 15,895. san diego pets " shepherd" - craigslist.I have 8 Australian shepherd puppies available 4 females and 4 males first shot ready located in la grange TX call for information Tengo 8 perritos Australian shepherd disponibles 4 hembras y 4. SO SWEET AND SO VERY AFFECTIONATE ,DE-WORMED,ONLY $65. He is a purebred Persian and the sweetest of cats. All rights reserved. Nesting box 150 x 210 x 300 (attaches to side of cage). Do you happen to know more than they do? I love him so much. Before I bought our current Red Male, the breeder asked what I was looking for, I said I was a little partial to a Red Male never having owned a Red before. Probably because my love of my Wiems. i am wanting to buy a doberman puppy as a pet because i have heard how intellegent and easily trainable they are. Never hurts to have all the facts. All I would say is Cleo Beckys got you now and she would not pull. Does anyone know of a reputable blue and tan breeder in the UK as I dont believe shipping a puppy from the states is good. They also may be more aggressive and therefore, give the breed a bad reputation. Too much sun, loud noises, rambunctious children at play, (not just bikes, skateboards, etc) even older kids can get on a dogs nerves. I have a male Linnie Parakeet for sale. December 11, 2022, Various sizes small child, Adults small, medium, large and extra large Riding helmets $20 each. The point that the author was making was that they are partially albino and albinism comes with health problems. I was hoping someone knows or can open their heart to this girl.. That is the only reason. The blue and white are both puppies from are black and tans it is in there back ground so what are you trying to say these puppies don`t deserve to live what kind of animal lover are you You know who you are. Hotels near Metro Richmond Zoo: (6.54 mi) Sleep Inn & Suites Harbour Pointe (7.53 mi) Holiday Inn Express & Suites Richmond-Brandermill-Hull St., an IHG Hotel (5.47 mi) Amber Grove Inn (6.00 mi) ComeHere Acres, LLC (7.10 mi) Amelia Family Campground; View all hotels near Metro Richmond Zoo on Tripadvisor 3yo But if you breed them, you can get 3 sorts of puppy because the puppy get one allel from each parents: 1.) And the blue Doberman is sometimes called a gray Doberman or silver Doberman. I was considering getting a Doberman as a second large breed. African Greys Just one opinion. Only Shebah. If your white Doberman really doesnt have any health or behavioral issues then you are EXTREMELY lucky, for Ive never once seen a white Doberman without at least one of the issues I mentioned before. The dilute colors were frowned upon in their beginning as well. We do limit her time in the sun as you would with any fair skin mammals, like me. You are not helping, you are hurting, period. It is safer to put animals down in a shelter than to risk it 1. They have a personality unlike any other dog, if you had ever owned one you would understand. Additionally, Alaska just has to many kinds of cultures in the small parts that are accessible to support humans in numbers to have to embrace racial beliefs . Their healthy, extremely loved and they are both so attached to me. Thanks for any info. God bless. Alert. We also own a blue female and she has been much easier to take care of. But he adapted just fine and even learned to lift his leg to pee(with our entire family cheering for him, LOL!) PetzLover helps you to find your lovable pets to your home.All Classifieds > Florida > Pets and Animals > Tampa > 33615 Beautiful parakeets for sale for sale in Tampa, Florida $11 Share it or review it I have a variety of different color parakeets for sale both young and breeders great birds asking 11 dollars each great price call thanks ! You sound scarily superior to the rest of us Thread from 2 posts above Wouldnt it be nice if we could guarantee that the breeders of the white Dobermans had as much integrity as you think your daughter has ? Dogs should look something like a wolf, a dingo, or a fox if they had not been reconfigured by humans. They are beautiful dogs and behave just as well as any other dobe. Keep in mind, we are arguing over a DOG. White dobermans can be sickly or healthy as can ANY other dog. Especially when they may need more medical care. I am not a dog breeder or trainer, nor have I too much experience raising dogs. Quality bird and selling to a loving family who will make him one of their own as this bird, TopHARLIQUIN MACAWS HAND RAISED YOUNG PET BIRDS, TAKING ORDERS FOR THIS SEASONS BABIES Harliquin macaws amazing parrots unbelievably tame and ready for there forever homes now / only one hen bird left from the******2022 breeding season Over time I reckoned that there is a possibility the Dobermans either dont process or need more potassium! We have Shihpoo puppies available and ready to be rehome now They will come with their vaccination papers (first shots and deworming already done) they are currently 8 weeks old. The gene pool would become weak and polluted in a relatively short period of time. well-socialized, hand-fed baby birds raised in a loving environment by our knowledgeable, well-trained staff. I dont agree with breeding whites at all. My Granddaughter, bought a red, an American bred. I just love them. I love that they require not coat clipping. He explained coherently, the albino thing.might you should reread the article with peace in your heart for claritys sake. If not for their health, at least to cut down on all the poor pets that have to be put down every year in shelters. only bred to look americanized for the show.. And nothing like what they wer origanly bred for. common sense be damned. And that is across all colours. Also though they do not use Wiemaraners for PPD dogs typically. We have two beautiful donors with no health conditions both albino! Contact the team at KROSSTECH today to learn more about SURGISPAN. Dad has Champion Lines, Mom is purebred but no papers. Mutt dogs are said to be the best, but this is not always the case. My white is now 6 months old and I couldnt be happier with her in all regards. The AKC doesnt decide the requirements for the show ring That would be the breed clubs. They were gorgeous animals will massive abilities and they have been evolved into the short, squat English bulldogs we know today only because of the breeding. i currently own 3 whites (spayed/neutered) and couldnt be more pleased. I am sure you didnt know about the z factor before hand and it should say on its AKC papers that there is NO Z FACTOR in its bloodline if it comes from quality breeders. I agree. She said they take used cooking oil and add it to the dog food in their factories. Fendi is very affectionate, great with kids and other dogs. Breeding any dogs should be outlawed in my opinion the shelters are crowded with purebreds and mutts alike. Love your Doberman that was born white but make sure to protect it from the sun, its eyes, skin, etc. Its done that to me too. Im like you not wanting a puppy, but a 2-4 year old. Nine week old male puppy. Right, exactly what we did not want, a puppy. @DJ Yes. and vet bill are just that vet bill make a payment arrangment or start paying the vet before yu get the dobie and have a credit before the health issues arrise or pet health insurance. It is usual behaviour by breeders when a new mutations occurs. First, As I initially stated, it hasnt been that long ago that blue and fawn puppies were culled. I am getting ready to buy the only black and rust puppy from an all white litter. Buy and Sell Shetland Sheepdogs Puppies & Dogs UK with Freeads Classifieds. You need to remember all dogs came from the wolf and though breeding such as line breeding and inbreeding we have a wide variety of dogs some good some not so good but they all deserve our love and care no matter what. For Sale. Well bonded always staying in the nest box Post your classified or want ad in Ontario Pets. Im sure there was some possibility that he was mixed, but he didnt look it. I have had three remake black and rust. I wish people would not perpetuate poor information. You claim to have rescued some dogs from the shelter, let me ask something, didnt it break your heart to see that overcrowding there? Shelter dogs and puppy mill dogs are bred by irresponsible assholes and greedy bastards. Another Dobie for us, please. Our red dobie that is 8 months nowheeats 3 meals a day. the cause is called interbreeding. I am an animal activist, but I still think its okay to cut their ears as long as it is done correctly and under anesthesia with great care taken to keep the dog out of pain and tending to the healing correctly. lol. i will admit he does squent in direct sunlight but so does every human being. According to Dr.S., An albino has no pigment to hair, skin, eyes or mucous membrane. White Doberman Punchers have NEVER been proven to be albino, and yes, white dobes can be show dogs in some countries, and, yes, there have been white champions, regardless of temperament. Study and actually thoroughly read what you find. I feel this combination would be great for my needs. Having said all this, if you do find a white Doberman rescue dog or a white Doberman from a breeder with a good reputation, who does health testing, please give them a chance. This matter was also of large debate with the German shepherd, which was later accepted. and I think that whatever the color they are, Doberman are freaking perfect and lovely. They are no Documented facts that say white Dobermans have more health problems than any other color Doberman. Birth defects dont require you put the dog to sleep, but be responsible and educated. i have an albino dob and a black on they both get the same food and go to the dog park 4 times a week and my white one is more helthy then my black and tan, Hi, again does anyone know of a breeder with blue and tan pups in the UK? Curious about the White Doberman you mention. Easily trained at this age. Be a RESPONSBLE pet owner if your love your fur baby. could anyone tell me their experience if possible with Z factor of puppies? I am capable of finding a good breeder as I have a history with AKC and the breeders. We dearly loved all of our girls, their different temperaments and personalities. Still available? Research your breeder! i guess im d only one in the philippines dat owns a white doberman..as i have been breeding red,blue,isabella and black We lost her just a month ago at age 12.5. thankyou Anthony, we need to do whats best for the breed in the long term and Im pretty sure Mr. Louis Dobermann did not want the white dobermans entering the lineage. Estimate 300lbs. She was a faded Isabella, very pale tan. No one has had all the albinos dna tracked to see. Dobermans are forever loyal and will always stay by your side. The breeding of the albino Doberman is disgusting and anyone who supports this interbreeding is also disgusting! craigslist provides local classifieds and forums for jobs, housing, for sale, services, local community, and events, led headlights flicker when car is running, virtualbox gpu passthrough windows 11 host. I think not.. after reading as much of your snarkiness that I could stomach. free spelling bee game. She clearly stated they are a partial albino Its just the colour of the dogHEllo its still a DOBERMAN! He is very gentle and extremely good with children. Read all you can about dog behaviour to understand things from their point of view. So whats the right dog food or treats to feed them. I am living with a little companion that is pure bred, that should be POOR BREAD! Thats when she gave me the bad news. They have a small amount of pigment, which makes the coat cream and the eyes blue. my first dobe was white, I rescued him, he was def, and blind in one eye, as well he was a fear biter, he passed at only 3 years of age due to cancer some people get lucky with health issues I was informed of problems and gave home the best home I could. Please contact me. Deduction is usual $100 $200, and your reimbursement 80% of your bill. They have even discovered that Neanderthals had red hair and blue eyes. I have a white Dobberman, he is the BEST! Ready for breed We are in our 60s. Check it out! Health issues are rampant in dobes. Brian, The white coloring of a Doberman IS the result of a genetic mutation. Ready for slaughter. In the meanwhile we have adopted a 7 months old dobie girl. And while I have owned only one purebred dog out of a total of eight dogs total (only one of my mutts came from the pound. I love him to pieces. . Most dogs in shelters are Mutt dogs. I want all the colors i may breed i may not breed, but as with any thing line breeding can cause problems. Cleo spoilt me because of her oober intelligence so went for a Weimaraner next Emma was bright but no Cleo! Pet Birds for Sale Near Me. Cleo went eeverywhere with me ? He is very smart and attentive. Hey Sarah, do you know of a good breeder or where I would have the best chance of finding a white? We have had dobermans for 20 yrs . Theyre doing no harm though. While the above persons grammar and spelling IS rather poor, the words being spoken are not stupid, but true. About 15 yrs ago when I still lived in the US (Virginia) I was introduced to a breeder of white Dobes. Sure, some may be loving, intelligent, and even have no health problems; however, the majority of them do. I Had a red and Blond, I Loved this dog and Was the Smartest Dog I have ever had, I will Probably buy another registered Red and Blond , or I Might try a Black and tan this time either way this Dog will have a fantastic Life, Traveling and Being Spoiled!!! The younger the age at neutering, the earlier the age at diagnosis with mast cell cancer, cancers other than mast cell, hemangiosarcoma, lymphoma, all cancers combined, a behavioral disorder, or fear of storms. Theres this awesome thing called Google, use it, and dont just click on the first thing you see and read it. It seems the Doberman breed has a very strong heart. Wow!! Wrong!! I am not intowhite vs. albino thing but i had a blue with skinproblems bt he was my dog. i have owned dobermans for over 40 yrs and i can remember when this prejudice existed for the isabellas and the blues. Huge variety of colours. Yes, he requires a lot of exercise but the entire family is spoiled by his great temperament. I know they are rated as the 5th most intelligent breed, but IMHO our Dobbie was simply the most intelligent dog we owned. There is currently a female Doberman about 4-5 years old looking for a home near Erie PA Oversize in both the US and in Europe. Blue and white available. remember please dont be a moron and breed these dogs ever ! So there you have it! In the past I had 2 German Shepperd, but after my first blue doberman all my family totally fall in love in this breed and couldnt imagine our home without doberman. Darwins theories of natural selection might suggest that a white tiger would not be able to breed in nature due to its different-ness, however, nature and reality clearly evidence that this genetic variant continues to procreate on our planet. Get them a fun winter dog sweater if you can. Tupelo, MS Tiny male, light apricot in color. Evilboo..you are one mature young ladyrespect. Humans as a species have not been around, in any influential way for very long. And Marcela Rodriguez, you might want to try fish oil and get your blue in to see a vet and or a dermatologist quickly to try and help his coat. http://dpca.org/albino/albino_about.htm The website also has a lot of information for anyone wanting information about the Dobermans. He had a very nice temperament also. I bet half of you owners with healthy white Dobies havent seen been to a vet more than three times with that dog. Reverse pied hand raised baby indian ringneck, Meet patch How fawns and the albinos are getting so popular idk because they are the ones with all the health problems. He has no signs of cancer. Rainbow Haus Dobermans in Eland, WI was owned by Brigette Block, until, God Rest Her Soul, she passed away. This will continue to happen due to the affluent culture and the preferences of people. Turns out she has a heart murmur. U sound like an idiot! 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Proving to the World, what I already know, White Dobermans are simply a rare expression of a Recessive gene that makes their coats an unusual Doberman Color, but every other atom of their being is Pure American Doberman Pinscher. You just have to compare the two. possibly the most frustrating comment thread in history all I have to say is this first the dogs that exist, Im sure theyre all wonderful. Gender. So champions and show winner puppies will cost more than you pet quality doberman. A red female puppy this time. the Budgies are sweet and coveted as pets by bird lovers. Never a problem with this. Good luck! I have had alot of dobermans over the years all colors the color does not make the dog what makes the dog is how you raise it train it love it and socialize them. i have been reading up on the breed since i have never owned one, and have found alot of good information about them. Take for example the Bullmastiff. People that badmouth them most have never seen one, and know nothing about them. So they are very susceptible to sunburn, vision problems. Yeah, I dont take her out in the middle of the day( we live in Florida) but I dont go out in the middle of the day either! That will cause many health issues. Other than that he is in very good health. Oh dear, Well, except for those pesky squirrels. I want a Dobie but dont want the hassle with home owners insurance. Registered Nigerian Dwarf Doe and her 2 Doelings, FOR SALE LAGRE MALE TEXAS $60, LARGE FEMALE PARROT $50, NEW RUFFWEAR, Front Range Dog Harness Red Sumac L/XL, Purebred extreme face Persian intact female, Wanted: Although I have never personally owned a White Dobie, I have had the distinct honor of knowing four of them, very, very well. They were taught you give kisses no bite. Every bit as PERFECT as any other color expression of our beloved Doberman Pinschers. There was a white Doberman at the humane society in my town the last time I went. I agree with you and on a recent visit to the vet with our new rescue he was pleased to see that he was 2 yrs old before neutering (we have no choice when getting a rescue) because he said recent studies showed a 15% reduction in cancers if neutered at 2 years AS COMPARED TO NEUTERING AS A PUPPY). 1 x 4 year old cock Not all white dobermans will have skin issues, and other health issues. red dobies are very nice to kids I have one named penny oh and Im a kid btw anyways penny is so sweet she always greats people with a smile and she is always nice, I just wanted to say that its a shame that people give ALBINO Dobermans such a bad rap.I have had Dobermans since 1987 and they are GREAT companionsbefore about 35 years ago I saw a white doberman and other exotic animals that were in the news from being taken from a home in Eastwood,NYsome asshole was arrested for having all these animals that he didnt have licenses forwhen I saw the Albino in the news I wanted to adopt him and very sad to say that when I called the SPCA told me that he was unadoptable..I asked why and they said because his owner would take a tazer to the dog and because of that they had to put him downI was so angry that an innocent dog was treated that way..last year I found my Albino and he is GREAT.so loveable, playful and and just amazing couldnt ask for a more loving dog.People need to stop judging dobermans and dogs in generalits not the breed of the dog its how you raise/train the dogyou as an owner are what you make your dog to be just like a childyour actions mold the dogkeep your heart open to all dogs ALBINOS too. Im somewhat discouraged because shes such a sweet girl and I love her already. In 2018 Bella past away in my arms at age 8 of a heart attack. I started with a potassium tab that you can get at almost any store. It was the antibiotic of choice in a few countries for 2000 years b4 penicillin and then it was all but forgotten about. Where to begin Ok my family purchased a blue Doberman pinscher in 2009 at roughly 2 months of age with tail docked I was given AKC paperwork regarding history of his lineage and AKC number. You obviously are quite the Bible Scholar, huh? That means a very shallow gene pool to start out with. Birding on the water is something you can do all year.Home Birds For Sale. I was not aware of the health problems white dobermans have and if i had I may not have gotten him. Met her yesterday. PS, I dont own a white Dobe but rather a Cockerpoo! To each his own on color, if it floats your boat and you love that guy or gal go for it. I had a Blue Doberman. Both my Black/rust girl, Phoenix and Steele get a fleece lined coat in the Winter. HARLEQUIN MACAWS Greeneing Hen x Blue and Gold Cock Incubated and hand raised from the egg our babies come vet checked by an Avian vet, DNA (blood) Sexed and Microchipped. My Grandparents brought me up and as a child we had a German Shepherds called Sally who was farm stock and lived to be 17 and my grandad said no matter how many dogs you have there will be one that stands out head and shoulders above all the others for me it was Cleo! I struggle with my two red Dobermans shedding, what can I do if anything. The White DobermanPinscher came from inbreeding and is considered apartial albino Doberman. I wasnt training him, he was trying to train me! Over the last 15 yrs it has become common to see oversize dobes (height as well as weight). We are so relieved. Brace yerselves for it ALMOST ALL PUREBRED DOGS ARE THE PRODUCT OF INBREEDING! Do you know if both of her parents were white? $600.00 firm!!! 7 yrs later, my baby girl is still a goofball! People should not judge what God has made just because they are wrong. As far as what information youve given, I believe there is no such thing as a bad dog but there is such thing as a bad owner. She even feeds her dogs food she makes herself, it looks yummy! Having nearly 50 years experience with this breed, the one thing to keep in mind is there are known issues which even many who have absolute whites are not aware of and have no understanding of why their dog behaves or reacts certain way. California is far away. Sara : there is nothing wrong with white dobermans. Also we treat infections with MESOSILVER. I think there are a lot of moronic people on this site that are prejudiced as well as an educated even though they should stop and think that humans by their logic are imbread as well because if it was just Adam and eve then some body was double dippingso white dobermans arent alone are they? Our dobbies are as a people some more healthy, some less. I am looking for a PPD because I have a medical condition in which I feel I will need one in the future for my son and myself after a recent experience I have had. In Sep 2018 we adopted Katie. Do they have anymore? With the exception of running across the field to see Grandma if she was outside. If the breeder wants to limit the White, just do add a no breed clause to a buyer contract and have the buyer sign,but dont dispose of that puppy, Im sure theres a great home out there for him or her. You know. Think I can pass him off as a He was barking the whole time and immediately started growling at my dad when we walked past his pen. What are the health risks for a red pup from a red dad and albino mother? I had a red dobie for 13 yearsmy white is no differentno added health issues. Either due to crafty paper work practices or AKC slip ups . Albino is not a variation of color it is a lack of color. They wanted nothing to do with that! And? We have a 5 month old white dob named Alfonso.. so funny Marie! Hi, my name is Calin Scridon and I went to the site to see the material and the comments. At this point Im not planning on keeping him but rather finding him a home best suited for him He is crate trained for while she is at work and he loves to go for rides and hikes. In most mammals (including humans) true albinos have pink eyes because they have no pigment at all. A well bred doberman (which clearly 99% of you have no clue what that is) will be way healthier than an albino. Having been familiar with SDS or sudden death syndrome, and as a researcher I have been excited to have figured out a potential solution to SDS. Full of love and pep. Now my family is waiting for our new 3 months blue doberman. The breeder asked had I ever heard of RMS, nope I said, she said what you explained is Red Male Syndromeshe said many poopoo the term, but she said of all the Dobe breeding theyd done over three or four decades they noticed their Red Males were pretty easy going, a little goofy, not as territorial as most bitches, but when the rubber met the road they would step up and protect. If they got a bad white then it was from a person that did not care about the health and was possibly inbreeding. Thats you. Males and females . On average, a men's haircut can cost anywhere from $20 - $80. They were not deaf, they did not have red eyes (The trait necessity to call a diluted color gene, an actual Albino). One only has to neuter or spay them to keep a breeding from takin place. Wouldnt it be nice if we could guarantee that the breeders of the white Dobermans had as much integrity as you think your daughter has ? My first doberman was with us some more than 13 years. The difference is obvious at first glance, but on careful study, you will see how much of the original Doberman Pinscher has been deleted from its current U.S. counterparts. He got all the best traits of each breed but especially the goofy tendencies Dobies can have. Plumb headed parrots I also belive that dobermans that carry the albino trait should not be bred even if they are a champion. If an animal lacks pigment in one part of his body (like fur) and not in another (like eyes) its attributed to another genetic abnormality. Regarding the albinism debate and eye color: albinism can be partial in mammals (and also birds, even wild ones), and can come from various mutations in the genome. I do have a serious issue with destroying White Doberman pups at birth. just because they are white does not mean you should not get them, albino does not mean they are bad. We have recently lost our Dobie. To the guy that said the bull mastiff came about by interbreeding other bull mastiffs you are an idiot. I am trying my childhood breed of German Shepards now and find myself comparing them. Well we got a Red Male from her and hes been amazing for the last 10 1/2 years. Its a domesticated animal (we) as responsible adults are to look out for their well being, And yes I encourage this because youre saving the animal giving it a healthier life. Just remember to ALWAYS monitor children with dogs. A Doberman that is white is not special in a good way. It is very important to us that all our babies get a good start in life both nutritionally and Also there are some white champions in schutzhund as well as obedience and agility course do your research like i said, Ok to all the white haters DO YOUR RESEARCH!
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